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Comparison Harley-Davidson FLSTSB 1584 SOFTAIL CROSS BONES 2008 vs Harley-Davidson 1340 NIGHT TRAIN FXSTB 1998 - Uncle Sam's forces

Uncle Sam's forces

let's imagine..

your uncle in America leaves you $20,000, but in his last will and testament, he specifies that the entire sum is to be used to buy you a Milwaukee beauty!
So you're faced with a catalog full of long names, incomprehensible letter sequences and "classic", "special" or "street" models.
Fortunately, Oli the Belgian is here to help you, dear readers. A comparo is better than a long speech.

A.B.S. in the U.S.A.

the forces at work:

on my left, the historic FLHRC Road King Classic powered by the latest evolution of the 1,584 cc V-twin developing a secret power of +70 to 80 hp/din. This twin-cylinder is still air-cooled, but has recently been fitted with fuel injection. Torque of 129 nm at 3,500 rpm.
On my right, the aggressive VRSCDX Night Rod Special powered by the new 1,250 cc liquid-cooled V-twin (developed by Porsche) developing a whopping 123 hp/din at 8,000 rpm. Torque of 115 nm at an incredibly high rpm for a Harley of... 7,000 rpm!

Both powered since 2008 with the A.B.S. option.
And given the upright position of the rear brake pedals, it's quickly put to good use during emergency braking. These two models have a number of features in common, the main one being their V-twin engine!

The Road King tourer is well equipped to make life easier for the traveler: a large 22-liter fuel tank, a protective windshield, a 6-speed gearbox equipped with practical cruise control, good-capacity hard cases and a very comfortable seat and footrests (spring-mounted!). So, all in all, if we forget the substantial weight (332kg), this bike is an everyday companion with a range of action and services that many custom bikes would envy.
The aggressive Night Rod, on the other hand, plays the bad boy card to the hilt. With its 240mm rear tire, it's a crowd-pleaser, and its matte black paintwork reinforces its dark side. On this very low-slung bike (640mm), the riding position is rather unusual: feet and arms far forward. We ride with our backs bent, our hindquarters back and wedged into the deep saddle, a sort of flag position.

off you go!

as you've already guessed, the riding positions are very different:
The fork's rake (34°) and the difference in cross-section between the front (120mm) and rear (240mm) tires give the Night Rod a wobbly feel at low speeds.
The Road King, on the other hand, proves to be very well-balanced, after having had to give it a good tug to get it off its stand.

The power available is also very different (double, after all!). The Road King's original twin, bursting with torque at low revs, invites you to climb into 6th gear as quickly as possible and engage cruise-control, freeing up your right hand. It's always fun to wave to another biker with that hand on the way up ... astonishment guaranteed!

As for the Night Rod's engine, it overflows with power, unfortunately at the expense of torque. In fact, it's not uncommon to have to shift back into 1st gear in slow bends, so much so that the engine thumps at low revs.
Perhaps it was the transition from one to the other that made me feel this lack of torque?
On the other hand, as soon as you pass 3,000 rpm, the engine and the wide rear tire propel you, like a dragster, to speeds that are largely prohibited. Even in second gear!
It's possible to reach a good 200km/h without worrying about the bike. But in this case, remember to lock your feet between the selector and the footrest on the left, and under the brake pedal (safety, hum, hum...) on the right.

conclusion :

at the outset of this comparison, and especially as this was the first time I'd ridden a Harley of the V Rod lineage, I was already tempering my future enthusiasm for only riding the old-fashioned Harley. I have to admit that this test ride turned my preconceptions upside down..
I don't think my top-of-the-range looks have yet supplanted my riding side, and as a result, the Night Rod's highly aggressive lines didn't allow it to overshadow its cousin's rideability. Of course, riding the Road King forces you to adopt a cooler pace. Once you've outgrown the low-end torque, don't expect to find any power at higher revs.

But the balance, manoeuvrability and astonishing angle grip (the mega footrests are the first to warn you when you're going over an angle) quickly make you forget this lack of power.
The Night Rod, on the other hand, likes to emphasize its spectacular aspects: 240 mm tires, 123 hp/din, full black engine and ultra-aggressive face certainly help to make up for its price of 19,795 Euro with A.B.S.
The Road King will cost you 1,700 Euros more, but will allow you to do more than just move from terrace to terrace.

it's up to you... ;-)

a+

Oli the Belgian - manufacturer's photos

Motorcycle Harley-Davidson FLSTSB 1584 SOFTAIL CROSS BONES 2008 Motorcycle Harley-Davidson 1340 NIGHT TRAIN FXSTB 1998
Harley-Davidson FLSTSB 1584 SOFTAIL CROSS BONES 2008 Harley-Davidson 1340 NIGHT TRAIN FXSTB 1998

Chassis

Nombre de places
Two-seater saddle
Frame
Double berceau en acier double berceau tubulaire en acier
Fuel capacity
18.90 liters (4.99 US gallons) 19.70 liters (5.20 US gallons)
Oil capacity
Seat height
Seat height : 767 mm (30.20 in) Seat height : 640 mm (25.20 in)
Length
Length : 2,299 mm (90.51 in) Length : 2,130 mm (83.86 in)
Width
Height
Ground clearance
Wheelbase
1,630 mm (64.17 in) 1,700 mm (66.93 in)
Dry weight
318 kg 292 kg
Curb mass
Weight when fully loaded
333 kg 323 kg
Brake assist

Front axle

Suspension
Parallelogram fork Telehydraulic fork Ø 41 mm
Wheel travel
129 mm (5.08 in)
Angle de chasse
Setting
Brake
Braking 1 disc, single-piston caliper Braking 1 disc Ø 292 mm (11.5 in), 2-piston caliper
Wheel
Front tire : MT90-B16 - 16 Front tire : 90 / 80 - 21
Pressure
2.48 bar 2.07 bar
Handlebars

Transmission

Gearbox
6 stage gearbox 5 stage gearbox
Transmission
Secondary belt drive Secondary belt drive

Rear axle

Suspension
Mono-damper 2 lateral shock absorbers
Wheel travel
103 mm (4.06 in)
Setting
Brake
Braking 1 disc, 2-piston caliper Braking 1 disc Ø 292 mm (11.5 in), 2-piston caliper
Wheel
Rear tire : 200 / 55 - 17 Rear tire : 130 / 90 - 16
Pressure
2.62 bar 2.62 bar

Motor

Motor type
two-cylinder 45° V-shaped , 4 strokes two-cylinder 45° V-shaped , 4 strokes
Cooling system
by air by air
Fuel system
Injection 1 Ø 40 mm carburettor
Fuel
Starting system
electric
Timing
2 ACT, culbuté tumbled
Number of valves
2 valves per cylinder 2 valves per cylinder
Displacement
1584 cc, Bore x stroke: 95.3 x 111.1 mm 1338 cc, Bore x stroke: 88.8 x 108 mm
Power
70 ch to 5,300 rpm 57.2 ch to 5,000 rpm
With compressed air
- -
Compression
9.2:1 8.9:1
Torque
12 mkg to 3,300 rpm 9.90 mkg to 2,350 rpm
With compressed air
- -
Émission sonore
- -
Motorcycle can be restricted to 34ch (A MTT1 Permit)
No No
Motorcycle can be restricted to 48ch (French A2 Permit)
No No

Options/Equipment

Practical information

The advantages
  • Look noir
  • Depth of soul
  • Rough formwork
  • Look
  • Gros twin (quand il respire)
  • The frime
The disadvantages
  • Very high handlebars
  • vibrations
  • Freinage
  • Lack of comfort
  • Choked engine
  • Front axle
Performance
  • Max speed : approximately 180 km/h (111.80 mph)
Price
Basic version
FranceFrance
16,100€
Country of manufacture

Compare

Acceleration

Harley-Davidson FLSTSB 1584 SOFTAIL CROSS BONES 2008 Undisclosed
Harley-Davidson 1340 NIGHT TRAIN FXSTB 1998 : 6.9 s

Fuel consumption

Harley-Davidson FLSTSB 1584 SOFTAIL CROSS BONES 2008 Undisclosed
Harley-Davidson 1340 NIGHT TRAIN FXSTB 1998 : 7 liters/100km (0.34 mpg)

Range

Harley-Davidson FLSTSB 1584 SOFTAIL CROSS BONES 2008 Undisclosed
Harley-Davidson 1340 NIGHT TRAIN FXSTB 1998 : 281 km (175 miles)

Torque

Harley-Davidson FLSTSB 1584 SOFTAIL CROSS BONES 2008 : 12 mkg
Harley-Davidson 1340 NIGHT TRAIN FXSTB 1998 : 9.9 mkg

Power

Harley-Davidson FLSTSB 1584 SOFTAIL CROSS BONES 2008 : 71 ch (70 hp)
Harley-Davidson 1340 NIGHT TRAIN FXSTB 1998 : 58 ch (57.20 hp)

Power-to-Weight ratio

Harley-Davidson FLSTSB 1584 SOFTAIL CROSS BONES 2008 : 4.54 kg/ch
Harley-Davidson 1340 NIGHT TRAIN FXSTB 1998 : 5.1 kg/ch

Torque-to-Weight ratio

Harley-Davidson FLSTSB 1584 SOFTAIL CROSS BONES 2008 : 26.5 kg/mkg
Harley-Davidson 1340 NIGHT TRAIN FXSTB 1998 : 29.49 kg/mkg

Speed

Harley-Davidson FLSTSB 1584 SOFTAIL CROSS BONES 2008 : approximately 180 km/h (111.80 mph)
Harley-Davidson 1340 NIGHT TRAIN FXSTB 1998 : approximately 160 km/h (99.40 mph)

Models

2008

1998

1999

Competitors

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