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Comparison MV-Agusta 910 R BRUTALE WALLY 2008 vs KTM SUPERDUKE 990 R 2008 - Are they all asleep today or what?

Are they all asleep today or what?

some tests put pressure on you: "Am I good enough for this type of machine?
Will I be able to tame the power, or will I be reasonable enough not to push too hard?"
But with passion taking precedence over reason, I feverishly awaited my appointment with KTM..

are they all asleep today or what?

if the mere mention of a brand like MV Agusta or a Superduke model makes your hair stand on end, what can you say when the Brutale and Superduke models are followed by an R?

We've reached the pinnacle of today's roadster, with a good 120 hp/din minimum and a contained weight of less than 190 kg, our two beasts of the day are already putting forward figures that make you shudder.
Not to mention the on-board equipment: light, carbon, Brembo, Pirelli super Corsa, +50 mm fully adjustable forks, etc..
But is there any way to ride these fighter jets on the road?

first Miss received: the KTM.

MV-Agusta the R immediately stands out thanks to its orange frame, which looks like Batman's bike, especially as the rear section, redesigned for the 2007 model year and raised in relation to the bike's stance, could easily be mistaken for a spoiler in the purest Lamborghini Countach style.
The resemblance must be "striking", given that an unfortunate bat tried to kiss the front of the Superduke, but didn't see how fast I was going!
Katoche 1 - Bat 0 !
The driving position is rather confusing.
At a standstill, your feet barely touch the ground (despite my 1.80 m!) and don't count on the sagging rear suspension or the saddle ... The saddle is so comfortable that for a moment I thought they'd forgotten to put one on !

take-off ..

after a quick look at the new dashboard, I turn the frail ignition key ... A low, metallic rumble sounds. Truly, with the exception of the 690 SM, KTM always manages to deliver a pleasing sound within the current regulations.
There's nothing new about the MV's panel.
We find the same element already fitted on the 750, which does nothing to detract from its look.
In both cases: analog rev counter on the right (white background for the MV and red orange zone for the Katoche) and the "digital block" on the left, a small shift on the MV that lights up at 11,000 rpm followed by the breaker at 12,000 rpm.
On the KTM, it's a little drier, with the breaker at 9,000 rpm, period! It goes Brooaaa and poof!

engine behavior is very different (between a twin and a four, who would have thought?). The 990 delivers torque from the lowest revs, and the 10.2 Mkg at 7,000 rpm gives the impression that power never falters. In fact, the trilogy of high-performance suspension
torque, turns the bike into a real high-slide machine if you're not careful. MV-Agusta
The MV, on the other hand, boasts a much sharper engine, with power that's already more than adequate at 7,000 rpm (98 NM) and continues to increase right up to the breaker. Engine behavior gives the impression of riding an ultra-powerful two-stroke, with the front end struggling to stay on the ground. What's more, unlike KTM, MV Agusta didn't see fit to equip its Brutale with a steering damper... the first investment to make when buying a bike!

another notable difference is the size.
The Italian is as narrow as ever, and it's not uncommon to touch the curve of the tank with your knee pads when changing gears.
The Austrian spoils its rider more, but on the other hand, everything is hard: the clutch tires the wrist after a few laps (oops, just a few laps) and the seat is simply mega-hard for everyday use.

everyday is a word that the designers of these two models must not have included in their specifications.

For the 2007 model, KTM "invested" in a 2 cm windshield (my physio will be happy!) and on the R model, they abandoned the passenger folding seat, thus saving 800g on the passenger footrests.
With MV, the violent character of the engine at high revs, the power of 139 hp/din and the short wheelbase practically gave me a sunburn during a hard acceleration in 3rd gear (and one more figure on my scoreboard!). I can't imagine how it would perform on wet ground... it's Holliday on Ice every day!!!!

so: comparable or different?

apart from the seat, the KTM is more affordable for everyday use; the bike, more human, is usable for touring, as long as the rider doesn't go nuts (which is never far away!!).
The Italian Diva, on the other hand, loves to be abused. As proof, the engine struggles to maintain a constant revs, and the acceleration makes your eyes pop out of your sockets. Despite this, I'm not sure it pulls much harder than the KTM.
That impression comes more from the way the power is distributed.

riding peacefully with this type of machine is virtually mission impossible, and the 15-odd kilometers to work each day always ended with the rider drenched and out of breath!

the difference of almost 4,000 Euros in favor of the KTM should be taken into account when purchasing, as both bikes provide the same pleasure..

so, tastes and colors ... ?

A+

Oli the Belgian - manufacturer's photos

Motorcycle MV-Agusta 910 R BRUTALE WALLY 2008 Motorcycle KTM SUPERDUKE 990 R 2008
MV-Agusta 910 R BRUTALE WALLY 2008 KTM SUPERDUKE 990 R 2008

Chassis

Nombre de places
Frame
treillis en tubes d\'acier au chrome molybdène treillis tubulaire en tubes d'acier
Fuel capacity
19 liters (5.02 US gallons) 18.50 liters (4.89 US gallons)
Oil capacity
Seat height
Seat height : 805 mm (31.69 in) Seat height : 865 mm (34.06 in)
Length
Length : 2,020 mm (79.53 in)
Width
760 mm (29.92 in) 990 mm (38.98 in)
Height
Ground clearance
Wheelbase
1,410 mm (55.51 in) 1,450 mm (57.09 in)
Dry weight
185 kg 186 kg
Curb mass
Weight when fully loaded
200 kg
Brake assist

Front axle

Suspension
Reverse telehydraulic fork Ø 50 mm Telehydraulic inverted WP forks Ø 48 mm
Wheel travel
126 mm (4.96 in) 135 mm (5.31 in)
Angle de chasse
Setting
Brake
Braking 2 discs Ø 320 mm (12.6 in), radial mounting, 4-piston caliper Braking 2 discs Ø 320 mm (12.6 in), radial mounting, 4-piston caliper
Wheel
Front tire : 120 / 70 - 17 Front tire : 120 / 70 - 17
Pressure
2.4 bar
Handlebars

Transmission

Gearbox
6 stage gearbox , à cassette 6 stage gearbox
Transmission
Secondary by chain Secondary by chain

Rear axle

Suspension
Mono-damper WP monoshock
Wheel travel
120 mm (4.72 in) 150 mm (5.91 in)
Setting
Brake
Braking 1 disc Ø 210 mm (8.27 in), 4-piston caliper Braking 1 disc Ø 240 mm (9.45 in), single-piston caliper
Wheel
Rear tire : 190 / 55 - 17 Rear tire : 180 / 55 - 17
Pressure
2.4 bar

Motor

Motor type
4 cylinders online , 4 strokes two-cylinder 75° V-shaped , 4 strokes
Cooling system
liquid liquid
Fuel system
Injection Injection Ø 52 mm
Fuel
Starting system
Timing
2 ACT 2 ACT
Number of valves
4 valves per cylinder 4 valves per cylinder
Displacement
909.1 cc, Bore x stroke: 76 x 50.1 mm 999 cc, Bore x stroke: 101 x 62.4 mm
Power
134.1 ch to 11,000 rpm 130.2 ch to 9,000 rpm
With compressed air
- -
Compression
13:1 11.9 : 1
Torque
9.80 mkg to 7,900 rpm 10.40 mkg to 7,000 rpm
With compressed air
- -
Émission sonore
- -
Motorcycle can be restricted to 34ch (A MTT1 Permit)
No No
Motorcycle can be restricted to 48ch (French A2 Permit)
No No

Options/Equipment

Practical information

The advantages
  • Roadster beauty
  • Engine
  • Partenariat de prestige
  • Sensation machine
  • Even more efficient
  • Ready to race
  • Equipment
The disadvantages
  • No changes
  • Recipe
  • Hearty fare
  • Saddle height
  • Engin exclusif
Performance
Price
Basic version
FranceFrance
21,900€
Basic version
FranceFrance
13,950€
Country of manufacture

Compare

Torque

MV-Agusta 910 R BRUTALE WALLY 2008 : 9.8 mkg
KTM SUPERDUKE 990 R 2008 : 10.4 mkg

Power

MV-Agusta 910 R BRUTALE WALLY 2008 : 136 ch (134.10 hp)
KTM SUPERDUKE 990 R 2008 : 132 ch (130.20 hp)

Power-to-Weight ratio

MV-Agusta 910 R BRUTALE WALLY 2008 : 1.38 kg/ch
KTM SUPERDUKE 990 R 2008 : 1.43 kg/ch

Torque-to-Weight ratio

MV-Agusta 910 R BRUTALE WALLY 2008 : 18.88 kg/mkg
KTM SUPERDUKE 990 R 2008 : 17.88 kg/mkg

Speed

MV-Agusta 910 R BRUTALE WALLY 2008 : 262 km/h (162.80 mph)
KTM SUPERDUKE 990 R 2008 : 240 km/h (149.10 mph)

Models

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Competitors

Bikers' reviews

French pilul83
owner of a superduke r
i confirm that it's the bomb
one word passion
no pleasure no comfort
but what a pleasure to turn the wrist and get a kick in the ass!
Rating : 5/5 Respond to pilul83
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